however the other parts are numbered. by BubbaDX Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:20 pm, Post Seemingly minor markings can drastically change the rarity and value of a rifle and to Karl-Heinz Wrobel for information on the changes in the Polish numbering system. Take a look! But assuming it's a Russian rifle (the majority are), you should find some useful info stamped in plain view, including a year, and the arsenal mark. possible that they unique serial number is related to the MO mark, but that is only Westinghouse made rifles also. The commerce which maybe carried on with the people inhabiting the line you will pursue renders a knowledge of these people important ~Thomas Jefferson~ (to- Lewis and Clark). Their use in Afghanistan continued on well into the 1990s and the early 21st century by Northern Alliance forces. Lower Serial #711 Bolt Serial #711 Receiver Info: Tula Star, 1942 no. It's M44 rifle with a barrel produced in 1944 at Izhevsk (if you pull the action out of the stock, you can check the underside of the receiver tang to see if it's arsenal/year stamped to give an idea if it's original to the barrel). I will support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. collectors. cases. M27 winged connector bars were numbered to match with the For other uses, see, MosinNagant M1891 Dragoon from the collections at the, Civil War, modernization, and wars with Finland, , there are parts in this newly created design, invented by Colonel Rogovtzev, by Lt.-General Chagin's Commission, Captain Mosin and small-arms manufacturer Nagant, therefore it is only fair to call it the, 1891/30- , , " " 1430 25.11.2003 [Order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine "On the organization of civil service activities of the State Protection Service at the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine" No. [49][50] Also available are bolt on muzzle brakes that reduce recoil and counter muzzle rise. Case sensitive with a minimum of 6 characters & one numeral. contributors. stamped, less common. Click OK to extend your time for an additional 0 minutes. Right Handed or Ambidextrous. different (probably), but they will be basically the same. It is a cut down Russian M91 and there are three primary variations as seen During the last year of production (1960) China began to use Chamber, have no bore light to take a photo, but it looks good. The only other number on the rifle is on the bolt body and were probably numbered during refurbishment, Soviet replacement stocks in pencil in the barrel channel, Soviet postwar M44 stocks stamped under the buttplate, Late Chinese T53s instead of the buttplate. You answered long. Your M24 barrel was made in Switzterland by A forum community dedicated to survivalists and enthusiasts. The Mosin bolt is removed by simply pulling it fully to the rear of the receiver and squeezing the trigger, while the Mauser has a bolt stop lever separate from the trigger. you feel there is use of a copyrighted photo, contact the owner and #2/4. It says 1943 on the receiver and is a 91/30, but thats all I know at this point. If one is encountered, it is unlikely that a second will be found in short order. The maximum number of products that can be compared is 4. What is the width of the front sight base? The markings on the left side of the receiver are the ones that concern you. You answered 1891-1925. historic military firearms. Hence, the title Mosin Nagant is given. [19] Hyh did not use a scope on his Mosin. Not always but a lot. Rifles in 6.554mmR use a necked-down 7.6254mmR cartridge and were the standard rifle of the USSR's Olympic biathlon team until the International Olympic Committee revised the rules of the event to reduce the range to 50 meters and required all competitors to use rifles chambered in .22LR. I think most rearsenals where they refurbished and used multiple rifles were restamped to match, so you would see the old number xd out. This is an early Finnish M91 with a Tikkakoski manufactured barrel. the new barrel number. You will also note that there are articles the marks are pretty much the same. All photos that are not credited are property of this Below are examples of The rifle was widely used by all belligerents in the civil war. The arsenal marks of Mosin Nagants are found on the barrel just forward of the top of the receiver and right behind the rear sight. The front sight is a post that is not adjustable for elevation. Here is a renumbered bolt that has the "N" prefix But if you look at the production numbers, that would have been enough to guarantee a unique serial number each year. During the Russo-Ottoman War of 18771878, Russian troops armed mostly with Berdan single-shot rifles suffered heavy casualties against Turkish troops equipped with Winchester repeating rifles, particularly at the bloody Siege of Pleven. for Mosin information! No The popularity of the Mosin has grown over the past few years as more and more people discover how interesting and affordable these rifles are to collect. See the. by BubbaDX Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:39 pm, Post Check out with Sezzle and split your entire order into 4 interest-free payments over 6 weeks. Tula 91/30 with a serial number of 1234 and an Izhevsk Mosin Nagant with a serial number of 1234? Also the Russian and "Finnish capture" SVT38 and SVT40. Metal finish is a rich blue/black and has all matching serial, numbers Maker marked from the Radom Asrenal and dated 1953. digit number, beginning with zero when required, was retained. 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This M1907 carbine has no serial number at all on the barrel In interviews Hyh gave before his death, he said that the scope and mount designed by the Soviets required the shooter to expose himself too much and raise his head too high, increasing the chances of being spotted by the enemy. Below are examples of the barrel markings. It kind of looks like the Kiev 2nd GRAU arsenal, but it also kind of doesn't look like it. If your order it less than $25, you can use the remaining balance on another order by choosing to Redeem CLUB Points area within checkout. Aug 15, 2008. [21] When war with Germany broke out, the need to produce MosinNagants in vast quantities led to a further simplification of machining and a falling-off in finish of the rifles. I guess what I am wondering is, while they kept their serial numbering scheme kind of mixed up for whatever reasons, would they reuse a range of numbers once it was used. M28/30. The "r" after the date loosely means "year of god" and doesn't indicate refurb. [46] Also, the MosinNagant action has been used to produce a limited number of commercial rifles, the most famous are the Vostok brand target rifles exported in Europe in the 1960s and 1970s chambered in the standard 7.6254mmR round and in 6.554mmR, a necked-down version of the original cartridge designed for long range target shooting. out these fascinating pieces of history. This is a Finnish This 1943 Tula M91/30 is an ex-PU sniper and similar to the Because of the use of different sizes and fonts of stamps used by Finland and There were also minor modifications to the bolt, but not enough to prevent interchangeability with the earlier Model 1891 and the so-called "Cossack dragoon" rifles. Their question is Some were used to equip U.S. National Guard, SATC, and ROTC units. Mosin Nagant Serial Numbers All content copyright 7.62x54r.net Marks Introduction Definitions: Matching A rifle with all four serialed parts (barrel, bolt, floorplate, and buttplate) numbered the same. Darryl Boyd 2011-2018. serial numbered parts. However, very few who collect Mosin-Nagant sniper rifles have even heard of the . the Cyrillic prefix scrubbed and a new 6 digit number without a prefix stamped in it's Just joined. If you have mismatched serial numbers then the rifle had parts from more than one firearm when it was rebuilt. Early production 91/30s (from 1930 to 1936) and converted Dragoon rifles retained the octagonal receiver. If serial # is not noted in the description, it indicates that we have several examples of this model that. See the Mosin : Nauka, 1988. 2023 Cabela's L.L.C. Suggested site content and search history menu. Due to the large surplus created by the Soviet small arms industry during World War II and the tendency of the former Soviet Union to retain and store large quantities of old but well-preserved surplus (long after other nations' militaries divested themselves of similar vintage materials), these rifles (mostly M1891/30 rifles and M1944 carbines) are inexpensive compared to other surplus arms of the same era. The wartime Mosins are easily identified by the presence of tool marks and rough finishing that never would have passed the inspectors in peacetime. A hooded post front sight, replacing the blade on previous weapons. Your CLUB card has been saved to your account. France's arsenal Chatelleraul. surplus", they were junk and available in boundless quantities. "displaySKUContextData" : "false", Old serial numbers are often lined out With Remington and Westinghouse on the precipice of bankruptcy from the Communists' decision, the remaining 280,000 rifles were purchased by the United States Army. Normally three "R"'s surrounded by crossed stalks with leaves pointing outwards are on the top of the breech. The owner, and the site contributors and site host are not responsible This 1939 Tula M91/30 has had the original serial number with [10] The decision to pay off Nagant proved wise, as he remained the major contractor for the Russian Government, and the Nagant M1895 revolver was subsequently adopted by the Russian army as its main sidearm. Secondary serial numbers Check out the non-sporter preservationist group at: OOOPS. There are no numbers on how many are still in existence, but they are quite rare. a mis-matched number on the bolt body, but the last few digits of the barrel number on the marks are pretty much the same, 3) Tula Henceforth, the new Bolshevik government of Vladimir Lenin cancelled payments to the American companies manufacturing the MosinNagant (Russia had not paid for the order at any time throughout the Great War). It is no secret that the vast majority of Mosin Nagant rifles are not worth more than the few of hundred dollars they tend to sell for at gun shows, gun shops, and pawnbrokers. An M24 with the serial number on the side of the barrel and a It also has the "N" prefix which is not usually I don't see the accuracy proof stamps the circle K and concentric O. Finn matchedA Finnish built or marked rifle that Force matchedA rifle that has had one or more parts Ok it's a 91/30, It hasn't been rebuilt, it has the same serial Number on the bolt, Receiver, the bottom plate of the magazine, and the but plate, The serial numbers where stamped in, not the new age etching. Start I agree it is that barrel marking that confuses me.I am disassembling the mosin as we speak to look under the receiver, will post pics of any markings. Fairly certain it's Izhevsk arsenal, serial #KN1247 (matching on all 4 locations, barrel, bolt, magazine baseplate, and buttplate). Whether the Finland also employed the MosinNagant as a sniper rifle, with similar success with their own designs and captured Soviet rifles. serialed parts have stamped (as opposed to electropenciled) numbers with alpha without the written permission of the owner and the various site The most important area for us right now is the It has an *on the receiver along with the #42 and the year of manufacture, which was 1938. the SN is 2967. *Mosin Nagant 91/30 Round Receiver, all serial number matching: Receiver, Bolt, Buttplate, Mag. reason for the number on the receiver rather than the barrel is not clear in this case and Mosin Nagant 91/30 rifles were well-marked by the armories that cranked them out by the millions. An increase in urban combat led directly to the development of the Model M44 Mosin. gunsmithing that were eventually discarded. In the 1930's, the Army's first line issue rifle was the M27 Mosin Nagant. MosinNagant rifles and carbines saw service on many fronts of the Cold War, from Korea and Vietnam to Afghanistan and along the Iron Curtain in Europe. sections, articles, photos, or information from this site may be used So serial numbers had no bearing on what year or where it was made. ], Tsypkin G. V. Ethiopia in the anti-colonial wars. Another uncommon case where an M39 nose cap is M91. digits of the new number stamped on the knob. This example is a M91/30 made in 1943 and was made in the Izhevsk Please include the year, manufacturer, serial number, and whatever Spanish features your rifle has. The Tsar himself dashed the word "Russian" from this document with his own hand. In 1936 the Finnish Army fielded a new standard service cartridge intended for both machine guns and rifles. This bolt had a new number stamped on the knob which was The rifle did not receive the name of Mosin, because of the personal decision taken by Tsar Alexander III, which was made based on the opinion of the Defence Minister Pyotr Vannovskiy: there are parts in this newly created design, invented by Colonel Rogovtzev, by Lt.-General Chagin's Commission, Captain Mosin and small-arms manufacturer Nagant, therefore it is only fair to call it the Russian 3-line rifle M1891. On the opposite side of the barrel is the original serial "how did they know that"? While exact logos vary through the years, you can compare the following images to identify But that puts them at 999,999 possible combinations. This was probably done in a Have there ever been two 91/30's for example with the same serial number? The rifle was used in the short civil war there and adopted as the service rifle of the new republic's army. 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